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Post by moreDread on Oct 9, 2018 5:08:26 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45791055Looks like ministers have finally agreed to PAVA being carried in male prisons from 2019 after a successful 6 month trial across 4 establishment's.
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Post by slothjr on Oct 9, 2018 8:09:52 GMT
Wooooo this is good news
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Post by Glock on Oct 9, 2018 9:14:08 GMT
Great news!
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Post by sgtbush on Oct 9, 2018 10:06:34 GMT
Lets just hope we get the rigid cuffs at the same time.
I also think we should all be issued stab vests but only wear them when it calls for it.
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Post by Glock on Oct 9, 2018 11:05:10 GMT
Is there any benefits of the current cuffs you use? I've only ever used the rigid and they were brilliant.
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Post by sgtbush on Oct 9, 2018 13:30:28 GMT
No, rigid cuffs are far better.
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Post by Mccudden on Oct 9, 2018 18:39:14 GMT
Management have already put a downer on this. One thing I hate about HMP is the negativity and blame culture from the top, its bad enough with the moaning from the older officers 😂
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Post by whiskytangofoxtrot on Oct 9, 2018 21:50:19 GMT
Again, the female establishments are forgotten about.
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Post by Mccudden on Oct 9, 2018 22:14:48 GMT
First person to get hit with PAVA will be rolling in cash if they have a half decent lawyer. It has sexual discrimination written all over it.
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ktn
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Post by ktn on Oct 9, 2018 23:35:03 GMT
PAVA is wicked stuff. We already carry it, at my establishment. It can defuse a situation within seconds once it’s deployed and it doesn’t even need to be sprayed for it be effective. Just pull it out and flip the lid, point at the aggressor and you’re sorted!
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Post by Admin on Oct 10, 2018 4:43:17 GMT
Another pouch to fit on my belt 😡 as much as I welcome it, it shouldn't be in the hands of some people as it's bound to be miss used by those that go out of their way to drop people on a daily basis.
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Post by jay67 on Oct 10, 2018 20:23:06 GMT
Personally I think it will be a good thing. Non permanent damage and another aid for keeping us officers safe.
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Post by kryptonian on Oct 11, 2018 6:22:19 GMT
Agreed, it's definitely a deterrent too. Luckily not had to use mine yet but been present when deployed. It's effective alright! I'm not sure about it being subjective to sexual discrimination?
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