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Post by katie4907 on Aug 22, 2018 13:55:18 GMT
www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-45248025So, the only reason you stop CPR is if a doctor or paramedic calls it or if the person has a DNAR form. Yes this person may clearly have passed away but the nurses would have been slammed for not following NMC guidelines if they hadn’t have done CPR. This isn’t a failing! FairPlay to them I say, it must have been ridiculously hard for them to even try to resuscitate someone that they would have known has no chance of surviving and undignified for the person that had passed, but they did what they legally had to. I hope they were supported
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Post by jade1991 on Aug 22, 2018 14:14:27 GMT
I read this earlier and was equally pissed off! Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't... 🤬
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Post by katie4907 on Aug 22, 2018 15:02:35 GMT
It’s the bit that says ‘believing they had to do so’ there’s no believing about it! Fucking idiots 😫 I would have started CPR too regardless. We all know when someone has died but it’s not our call to say otherwise. You do what you have to and stop when you get told to stop
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Post by jonforshaw on Sept 2, 2018 22:38:29 GMT
At my establishment we’ve been told if we enter a cell and he’s clearly dead then we don’t perform CPR
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Post by taffy on Sept 3, 2018 18:43:25 GMT
At my establishment we’ve been told if we enter a cell and he’s clearly dead then we don’t perform CPR You sure about that? Only a paramedic or doctor can confirm death. I certainly wouldn't want to be explaining in a coroner's court why I did not begin CPR. |
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Post by jonforshaw on Sept 3, 2018 19:44:57 GMT
At my establishment we’ve been told if we enter a cell and he’s clearly dead then we don’t perform CPR You sure about that? Only a paramedic or doctor can confirm death. I certainly wouldn't want to be explaining in a coroner's court why I did not begin CPR. Yeah got told on day 1 after POELT Basically if they’re dead (obviously dead) then be respectful to the body and don’t break all the ribs in doing cpr |
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Post by ktn on Sept 3, 2018 19:47:22 GMT
Even if you think they’re dead, you don’t stop CPR as you’re not medically trained to know the signs of a deceased person only the doctor or paramedic confirms life extinct then that’s when you cease CPR, but only once they’ve told you to stop. Thats coming from the DDC as we had a DIC not long ago.
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Post by jonforshaw on Sept 3, 2018 21:04:11 GMT
That’s what we was told in training but like I said first day of IST we got told our establishment doesn’t do that
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Post by katie4907 on Sept 19, 2018 15:52:41 GMT
I haven’t actually started my establishment yet so I’ll be interested to find out. I work in a hospital at the moment so unless someone has a DNAR form, we start CPR. Very difficult situation, I wouldn’t be comfortable doing it on someone that is ‘quite clearly dead’, I agree it’s not respectful at all, but there has been lots of cases like this where nurses have been questioned on their fitness to practise, some cases going to court. Granted, we’re not nurses but I still think that call should be left to a medical professional and we do what’s needed until they turn up
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Post by sgtbush on Sept 19, 2018 17:29:04 GMT
At my establishment we’ve been told if we enter a cell and he’s clearly dead then we don’t perform CPR You sure about that? Only a paramedic or doctor can confirm death. I certainly wouldn't want to be explaining in a coroner's court why I did not begin CPR. Wrong. You must perform cpr. You are not medically qualified to call adeath |
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Post by bagpuss on Sept 19, 2018 21:40:24 GMT
If they are obviously gone or not if you start CPR, you are duty bound to continue until medical professionals take control.
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